Wednesday, June 28, 2006
Bolt 28/6: "Joy at our loss"
In which Andrew Bolt reveals a good title for his next "book":I DON'T get it. Well, that's one way to spin it. The other (considerably more accurate) is that they were celebrating Italy's victory rather than Australia's loss. Would Andrew have had a problem if Italy had beaten, say, Brazil, and Australians of Italian descent had been happy with the result? Or, if you live here, are you not allowed to barrack for any other team but Australia, regardless of your affiliations with another side? According to Andrew, no, you're not. Yet even here, in Lygon St, hundreds of "Italian-Australians" celebrated Italy's win with cries of "Viva Italia". Police on horseback struggled to keep dozens of the more aggressive away from belligerent Socceroos fans chanting "Bulls---". Ah, yes... there was a bit of shabby behaviour by Socceroos supporters. But they were "non-multicultural" Australians! So I'll bury that at the end of a paragraph in the middle of my piece, and move on very quickly. (Because condemning overly-patriotic Australians for being thugs doesn't fit very well with what I'm trying to do here.) I repeat: I just don't get it. As I said, a brilliant title for Andrew's next collection of columns. I repeat: I just don't get it. Sorry, it's just the first time for a while he's written something about himself with which I can agree so whole-heartedly. I repeat: I just don't get it. Oh, alright. I'll stop now. ![]() I mean, now. Here are men from families with roots in Croatia, Germany, England, Serbia, Italy, Samoa and who cares where else, united by something so grand that it makes such differences trivial. Whatever their backgrounds, they are united as Australians. Sure, but does that mean they have to forget their backgrounds entirely? You grow up in Croatia, supporting Croatia's soccer team, and then you move to Australia. You have to start supporting the Socceroos, and just tune out of World Cups for 32 years like the rest of the country? Or are you supposed to immediately switch sides once Australia makes the finals? You may even be right to dismiss this barracking for Croatia and Italy as harmless. As just sport, stupid. Well, exactly. But is it also a warning? Consider: A month after the September 11 terror attacks, thousands of French Muslims booed their national anthem at a soccer match between France and Algeria. Last year thousands of the country's five million Muslims rioted for a week, burning thousands of cars. I don't think that had anything to do with the soccer - that was to do with institutionalised racism in France which has left a large segment of their population feeling that they are treated in their day-to-day lives as second-class citizens. Their booing the French national anthem was a result of deeply-felt grievances against their new country, not a cause. So - are Lygon St's cheers for Italy's win "a warning"? Only if you're so pathologically paranoid that you can imagine the Italian community rioting in Melbourne because we constantly discriminate against them. (One good reason why I'd say it's unlikely is that we don't.) Well, then. How should we deal with it? How do we better inspire a love for Australia and the gallant Socceroos who represent it so well? By, as a country, doing things of which we can actually be proud. (There may be more significant ways of doing this than simply having successful sports teams.) |
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Monday, June 26, 2006
Bolt 23/6: "Parting a red sea"
Friday's anti-ABC diatribe was hilarious. Let's go through it and laugh at it.IT'S not that "your" ABC is biased, you understand. It's just that conservatives can't be allowed near it. Before we begin - you know how this is going to go. If you're a hardcore wingnut who thinks that the SBS and ABC are run by communists who DON'T LIKE USING THE WORD "TERRORIST" and OCCASIONALLY AIR STORIES CRITICAL OF AMERICAN FOREIGN POLICY, then you're in for a treat. If you're sane, well, you're in for a side-splitting journey into la-la land. Howard can spend ten years appointing hardcore conservative allies to the ABC board, and it'll still be as "red" as Pravda to people like Bolt. The loudest squeals, not surprisingly, came from that expert in character assassination Professor Robert Manne, the "stolen generations" propagandist. "Proving"? This must be a strange new use of the concept of "proof". Let's just look it up in the Boltionary: Proof, n. Any argument in favour of what Andrew Bolt believes to be true. Oh, I see. Carry on. No, wait a second, "fashionable" historians? Let's just check "fashionable" in the Boltionary while we're at it: Fashionable, adj. Perjorative adjective applied to progressive persons (or persons who ever accidentally agree with progressives) who are part of the vast anti-Bolt conspiracy. Such persons do not argue legitimate positions, but instead peddle propaganda that conveniently happens to inflame already-held prejudices of their audiences. NOTE: This is completely different from what Andrew Bolt does. I must say, the Boltionary's a bit clumsily verbose for a dictionary substitute (I begin to suspect that someone's just made it up), but that's an issue for another day. Yet the funniest protest -- and most revealing -- was that of Hilary McPhee, a Vice-Chancellor's Fellow at Melbourne University. So she's... a lefty... by, uh, marriage, who... wait a sec. Before you die there is something you should know about us, Lone Star. ![]() What? I am your father's brother's nephew's cousin's former roommate. ![]() What does that make us? Absolutely nothing! Sorry, don't know what happened there. Bolt appears to have taken us to Spaceballs for a moment. But back to the ABC. (Which, in its defence, would never show Spaceballs.) The ABC in particular was overrun with the loudly-Left from top to bottom. It's chairman and managing director, David Hill, even ran for federal Parliament as a Labor man. You're still complaining about the ABC being "overrun with the loudly-Left", Andrew, and Howard's been stacking the board and appointing conservative managing directors for a decade. What do you want? FORMER Liberal state director Michael Kroger found that out during his own penance on the board, when he asked 20 times in five years how the ABC was going in the hunt it promised for a "Right-wing Phillip Adams" -- a new on-air host as far to the Right as Adams is to the Left. I don't know how far to the "left" Adams actually is these days, anyway. What are his extreme, radical "left-wing" positions? He's in favour of public health and education? Hmm. How is the ABC to define Phillip Adams in a way which gives them an idea how to find a right-wing equivalent? We need a description of Phillip Adams which will so well define a hardcore conservative that who to appoint will be obvious. "Adams is a hate-peddler who tend (sic) to vilify rather than engage those whose politics aren't as radical as his own." - Andrew Bolt in his forum last week. Oh, dear. Andrew wants the gig himself. Second, Coonan should have challenged Colvin's claim that the ABC was "neutral" by asking why almost every prominent presenter with an "identifiable political leaning" seemed of the Left. To Andrew, "of the Left" is defined as "not being a hardcore conservative". Some of these people are lefties on some issues, but not all of them. (If you're a Media Watch presenter, though, you're a News Ltd-hating communist by definition.) If only the ABC collective realised that what is being asked for is not an ABC that starts chirruping John Howard's propaganda. Actually, that IS what's being asked for, but we at News Ltd don't call it "propaganda". IS there a model for this modern media? There is, and ABC TV last year ran a documentary trashing it. It's Fox News -- which came from nowhere to bury CNN and become the most popular cable TV network in the United States by a mile. "Did you like the way I just read that from the News Ltd promotional brochure, boss?" The documentary Andrew is obliquely referring to here is Outfoxed, and of course he doesn't bother responding to any of its criticisms. Hey, claiming the documentary is just "trashing" Fox will do just as well, won't it? (News Ltd has been very funny about Outfoxed - when it was in cinemas, its papers refused to run advertisements for it.) Fox News, owned by the company that owns this paper, has a tone too raucous for the ABC. But it has a format for debate the ABC should copy, not condemn. Bolt can get away with this one because most of his readers have never seen Hannity and Colmes. Colmes (the token "lefty") is the softest, most malleable, least engaging, least convincing advocate for the left imaginable. He is not who the left would select as their representative if they had a choice. From the wikipedia entry on Hannity and Colmes: The show is also well-known for its conservative-themed campaigns, which have included ongoing specials concerning illegal immigration, Terri Schiavo's final weeks, left-wing professors in academia, and abuses in eminent domain. The show's latest campaign has been to track the possible presidential run of Republican Newt Gingrich, giving him exclusive interview time to develop his platform. It doesn't spend much time on left-wing equivalents. (And here's a question for Andrew's boss - where's Fox News' "left-wing" counterpart to Bill O'Reilly?) Of course, this is Andrew's idea of "balance". No, this wouldn't mean the ABC would be sweeter to the Howard Government. In fact, it might then finally hit Howard where it hurts. Yes! An ABC that attacks Howard from the RIGHT! That's real balance - Right vs FURTHER right. Fantasmical. The debates we could have! But to have them, the ABC must learn to let a conservative not only into the boardroom, to twiddle his thumbs, but into a studio to twiddle the knobs. You guys do have three commercial networks, you know. Why should the Left fear more argument? After all, my dear Phillip, aren't we conservatives too dumb to make you look too stupid? Well, that's why they have you on Insiders, Andrew. I just love the "poor oppressed conservatives" line he runs. Doesn't it make your heart melt? They only have the talkback radio stations, the commercial TV stations, several large newspapers, and control of the House of Representatives and the Senate. When will these darling right-wingers finally get some power? (PLEASE GIVE GENEROUSLY.) |
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Sunday, June 25, 2006
Bolt 21/6: "Beazley loses his shirt"
Gosh. Kim Beazley WILL be worried. He doesn't have the support of Andrew Bolt!KIM Beazley is the gambler who risked it all on red. But the ball has landed on black, and he's out of chips. You know - "red". Like the communists. Kim's made a bargain with the forces of Stalin! How, exactly? The Opposition Leader's nightmare started a few weeks ago when he surprised (or dismayed) close colleagues by unilaterally declaring he'd scrap all Australian Workplace Agreements. Well, I'm not convinced yet that taking a popular policy position that is completely consistent with his political base and also, at least strongly arguably, the right response to the nasty IR laws of his opponent - equals a "nightmare". But we'll see where Bolt's going on this. (Hopefully he'll back up that little "dismayed" remark, by which he's claiming that there are ALP members - "close colleagues" of Beazley, in fact - who had that reaction to the announcement. Will Andrew justify this provocative claim? We shall see.) No more Mr Indecisive. It was hello to Mr Union Man and goodbye to the risk of being knifed by union leaders ticked off with his hedging. Spin, spinnity, spin spin spin. When we're reading an Andrew Bolt piece, a Labor leader is, by definition, either "Mr Indecisive" or "Mr Union Man". So scrap the AWA completely and be damned. By...? It's bad enough that the top business groups now write him off as unserious. Well, duh. The business lobby groups want to sack workers at will and have the power to pay them crap wages. What they want is clearly not in the interests of the majority of working Australians. I'd suggest their opposition is probably an indication that Beazley's on the right track. But two reputable polls this week -- AC Nielsen and The Australian's Newspoll -- show not only that his stunt failed to wow voters, but probably even turned many off. I imagine that when the polls reverse, Bolt will write a mea culpa column about how right Beazley is. Meanwhile, on the poll questions which asked voters their views on IR, a clear majority preferred the ALP's handling of the issue. So what if he's not "preferred PM" at this stage - that's decided on a whole range of other issues. And polls this far out of an election are hardly indicative of the final result. The point for Beazley is that the polls do reveal that the ALP's IR stance is preferred to the Coalition's, and will continue to be so. This wasn't the plan. When you ditch policy for populism, you're at least meant to get popular. Now, neither popular nor principled, Beazley is out of tricks. Oh, get your hand off it, Andrew. "Beazley is out of tricks" indeed. And this was a particular area where policy and populism are completely complementary. He's ditched neither. How did it happen? We don't need to thrash out the debate on what getting rid of workers' protections does, here, because that's not the point of BoltWatch. But it's worth noting here how Andrew is running the "hey, it's good for you if your wages are cut, because your boss can hire more people and then there'll be higher demand and your wages will go up" line as if it's self-evident. Not only as if it's self-evident, but as if "even the blind" can see he's right. That must be why only forty-seven people and a small dog showed up to those IR protests last year, eh, Andrew? (Don't blame the Herald Sun for underestimating the numbers a little - they don't actually have windows at Southbank.) Even so, I doubt crowds would chant praises for Howard's newest reforms, including extra freedom to sack. But what's hurt Beazley has been the shoddiness of the unions' examples of bastard bosses. Bolt's first example indicates why workers need unions. (Although Bolt implies that the reason the company has gone broke is that it had to hire smirking workers. DAMN THEIR SMIRKS AND THE BOTTOM LINE.) The second is just a pathetic excuse for the company "having" to fine workers for passing around the hat for a widow. The third is rubbish - Spotlight workers have had their wages cut significantly, and not because they "want new arrangements with unpaid leave". Sorry, my head's hurting from the toxic clouds of Bolt-spin. Let's stop here. My point with this column of Bolt's is how laughable it is. How much it must make the ALP snort and shake their heads when they read Bolt's "assessments" of how they're doing. And, frankly, relieved. If Andrew Bolt has to write such a clumsy piece of heavy-handed spin to try to undermine what they're doing, they could well finally be on the right track. ps Did you notice that Andrew didn't back up his claims from earlier in the piece at all? Classic Bolt stuff. Make provocative assertions early on, and then presume that your readers will have forgotten (everything but the impression they gave) by the end of your rant. pps If Beazley's "lost his shirt" as a result of one minor reduction in poll numbers, how many must the PM have gone through in the last ten years? Howard has negative poll results all the time. Oddly enough, I don't recall a Bolt piece entitled "Howard loses his shirt" in recent memory. Can anyone? UPDATE 4/7: And of course it turns out that the poll result Andrew Bolt was talking about was premature. A week later, says News Ltd's Australian, "IR delivers Labor big poll lead". Anyone expecting Bolt to withdraw his waffle about Beazley's lost shirt? |
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Wednesday, June 21, 2006
Bolt 21/6: "We thee wed"
Oh for fog sake. He's still going on about it.THERE we were on the set of ABC's Insiders on Sunday, cameras zooming in and the rest of the panel staring at me as if I'd gone crazy. I've been telling you ever since you first made the ridiculous claim back in March, Andrew. Try here and here, where I've responded to your Friday column, and here, where I've responded to your Insiders appearance. This is what Bolt does in his piece today. He challenges progressives arguing in favour of gay marriage to explain what's wrong with polygamy, as if this somehow proves his point about gay marriage. Somehow. For Bolt's argument to make sense, he has to establish that (a) there's something fundamentally wrong with polygamy and (b) that thing will not be enough of a reason to differentiate between gay marriage and polygamy, so if we allow one we'll have to allow the other. And, to cut right to the chase, Bolt has not done this. What Bolt has done is use the left's bemusement on the subject of polygamy (since it's nothing to do with what we're arguing for in gay marriage), and try to suggest that it means that, once gay marriage is accepted, then we'll have no problem with polygamy. Which would, for some unspecified reason, be bad. Where does Andrew explain his objection to polygamy? Answer: he doesn't. He just smugly tries to pretend that he's made his point. That it's so bad that he doesn't even need to spell it out, that it's just dumb lefties who can't see it. But the fact is that it's NOT obvious, because he CAN'T spell it out. He can't tell us what's wrong with polygamy, because that'll immediately destroy his attempt to link it to gay marriage. But back to the Age journalist on Insiders, Misha Schubert. How did she try to answer my question: If we agree to gay marriages, how can we say no to polygamy? I love that Andrew thinks he won that argument. If anything, where the lefties are going wrong is even playing his stupid game. The correct answer to "how can we say no to polygamy?" when asked by Andrew Bolt is to throw it straight back at him - what's that got to do with gay marriage? Why would YOU say no to polygamy? How that conversation should go: MR BOLT: If we agree to gay marriages, how can we say no to polygamy? MR LEFTY: What's your point? MR BOLT: That if you let gay marriages in, you'll have to let polygamous people get married. MR LEFTY: You're making this point to argue against gay marriage, right? MR BOLT: Yes. MR LEFTY: Say (for the sake of argument) that your claim above made sense (for the sake of argument) and legalising gay marriage meant that we automatically had to let polygamous people get married (for the sake of argument), then why is that an argument against legalising gay marriage? MR BOLT: Because polygamy is wrong. MR LEFTY: I see. So your argument depends on proving that polygamy is bad. MR BOLT: Yes. MR LEFTY: Then really, isn't it up to you, if you're bringing polygamy up on the assumption that it's bad, to explain why it's bad? MR BOLT: Yes, but it confuses the lefties if I ask them first. MR LEFTY: Tricky fellow, aren't you? But let's get to the point. You've raised polygamy on the assumption that it's bad - care to tell us why? What's your argument against polygamy? MR BOLT: Um, women are abused. MR LEFTY: Are they? Isn't the solution to women being abused in marriage not to ban marriage, but to police abuse properly? MR BOLT: ... MR LEFTY: Anyway, let's say you're right, and polygamy represents the abuse of women. Wouldn't that then be an argument against polygamy that you could run even after the legalisation of gay marriage? A point clearly differentiating the two, which completely undermines your argument that if you have one you'd have to have the other? MR BOLT: Yes, but... the slippery slope... MR LEFTY: You're not saying that gay marriage would be typified by abuse (more than heterosexual marriage at least), are you? MR BOLT: Uh, it might be. MR LEFTY: That's pretty offensive. Remember that gay friend you reckon you have? He might be a bit startled to hear you making those sorts of claims. Any evidence? MR BOLT: Uh, no. MR LEFTY: I suppose that explains why you've got to bring up polygamy to try to get that claim in, because you couldn't make it directly without looking like a bigoted fool. MR BOLT: Hey, it's obvious that polygamy is bad. MR LEFTY: But not so obvious that gay marriage is? MR BOLT: I'm much more comfortable pretending the debate is about polygamy. Can we talk about that instead and just mention gay marriage occasionally so that it sounds like what I'm saying has something to do with it? MR LEFTY: Fine. Why else do you say "polygamy is bad"? What are your other arguments against it? MR BOLT: It's immoral. MR LEFTY: Why? MR BOLT: It just is. Tradition. MR LEFTY: That's a pretty weak argument. MR BOLT: It's kind of all I've got to work with. MR LEFTY: So, let me get this straight. You can't back up any of your arguments against polygamy, but your only possible explanation for bringing polygamy into the gay marriage debate is if it's a really bad thing which taints gay marriage? MR BOLT: Well, in my defense, if you don't think about it too much, it does SOUND like a good argument. Fortunately I can rely on most of my readers not to think about anything too much. MR LEFTY: You're an embarassment to your profession. MR BOLT: And you have a website entirely devoted to what I write and say. MR LEFTY: Touche, sir. Touche. I'm torn between hoping that Bolt keeps writing about gay marriage (because he's doing those advocating for remedying the single most obvious basic civil rights issue in our society an enormous favour every time he puts metaphorical pen to metaphorical paper) and, on the other hand, being kind of sick of responding to his silly rants on the subject. Incredibly easy though it is. UPDATE: Bolt on his forum: I've never said that people in polygamous relationships are evil or corrupt. Is there some reason you felt the need to exaggerate my argument? But, Andrew, that IS your argument. Bringing up polygamy makes no sense, otherwise. If it's not an argument against gay marriage, then why mention it when we're discussing gay marriage? If you're not saying there's anything wrong with it, then how's it an argument against gay marriage? Of course, I have said that permitting gay marriages would make it hard to resist arguments for polygamous marriages, too, or any other form of marriage involving consenting adults - and I've briefly explained why I think the social impact of this will not be useful in my two columns on this subject. Have you read them fully? Yes, and no you haven't explained anything of the sort. Except for some vague moralising about marriage always being about children, which it self-evidently isn't. (Or why do we recognise the marriages of menopausal and infertile couples?) But there's no point in me arguing this point much further with you until we at least agree on the argument I've tried to make today, which is the first step in this debate. Do you then concede that if we allow gay marriages, then we can't oppose, say, polygamous ones as well? The cheek! We've got to make a decision on polygamy before we can discuss gay marriage? Get your hand off it, Andrew. How can we determine the result of the polygamy debate when the people who keep talking about it - you, for example - won't even explain their arguments against it? I know that I haven't heard any convincing arguments against gay marriage, so I'd support gay marriage. Whether there are any convincing arguments against polygamy - I don't know. When the polygamy debate happens, after gay marriage is legalised, then either there'll be some good arguments against it, or there won't. And we'll decide the issue on the arguments for and against polygamy, not on the arguments for and against space travel for midget transsexual puppies. We're talking here about gay marriage. For polygamy to be relevant as an argument against it, you have to show two things: 1. Why it's bad. 2. Why what's bad about it will be unavoidable if we permit gay marriages. Your onus, Andrew. Not ours. If you can't argue both of the above points, your attempt to link polygamy to this debate must fail. And until you make an argument on point one, your rants on the subject will be mocked as the deliberately bad-faith distractions that they are. It's like Bolt lives in a special fantasy world in which the rules of logic are completely reversed. |
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Bolt 16/6: Gay edge of wedge
| It's the beginning of the end, the thin end of the wedge, a Bennite solution. Where will it end, the abolition of the monarchy? - Sir Humphrey Appleby, Yes Prime Minister. Andrew's piece on Friday (now uploaded) does indeed, as reported, rely partly on the silly "thin end of the wedge" or "slippery slope" fallacy to which I responded on Saturday (and again after his Insiders appearance on Sunday). If we say yes to gays, how can we say no to someone who wants to marry, say, two women, or their half-sister, or a few people they met in some commune? Read my earlier retorts. It's staggering that he's still trying to run such a silly line. But, now that he's uploaded the piece, we can see he has one or two more wacky arguments up his sleeve. Just as stupid as the above, of course, but he has them. The first is the classic "some people on the other side want MORE THAN JUST TO WIN THIS ISSUE, and therefore THEY MUST NOT WIN ON THIS ISSUE" furphy. On gay marriage, Andrew puts it thusly: Listen, for instance, to Andrew Sullivan, the much-admired gay author, Catholic and former editor of the American magazine The New Republic. On his forum, his more extreme commenters have taken this argument and run with it even further: Mitchel Raphael, editor of the Canadian homosexual magazine Fab, says: "Ambiguity is a good word for the feeling among gays about marriage. I'd be for marriage if I thought gay people would challenge and change the institution and not buy into the traditional meaning of 'till death do us part' and monogamy forever. We should be Oscar Wildes and not like everyone else watching the play." (quoted in "Now Free To Marry, Canada's Gays Say, 'Do I?'" by Clifford Krauss, The New York Times, August 31, 2003) etc etc. The argument is: Gays Want More THAN JUST MARRIAGE, some of them WANT TO HAVE IT JUST SO THEY CAN TEAR IT DOWN!!! Look!!! Here's a gay activist talking about how he wants open marriages. THEREFORE THAT MUST BE WHAT THEY'RE ALL LOOKING FOR! Which is, of course, as stupid as saying, say, that we should oppose anything pro-life christians want because some of them want to firebomb abortion clinics and kill the doctors and women inside. Or that we should oppose anything pro-choice women want because some of them, according to the pro-lifers, want abortions with their morning coffee. There's a name for this sort of bodgy argument, where you take the most extreme representatives of the other side and try to argue that if you let anyone on the other side have their way, then you'll have to give the extremists what they want, too. (The name of the fallacy just temporarily escapes me.) The logical flaw in it should be obvious. Andrew also has a bit of a rant about how marriage is failing anyway - MARVELLOUS. As if we haven't already allowed the marriage ideal to crumble so badly that nearly a million children now live without mum or dad at home. No. And that's not what the gays are asking. Marriage is indeed a permanent, profound, committed relationship between two people. It doesn't always involve children and it shouldn't be limited to always involving one woman and one man, but the permanent, profound, committed characteristic is exactly what defines marriage. It's why gays who have those permanent, profound, committed relationships want them to be called marriages and treated equally. Anyway, if marriage is failing today, you can hardly blame the gays for that. We haven't let them get married, yet, remember? Andrew's attack on the ACT laws is novel - they weren't enough like marriage: Marriage for gays will mean very different rules -- and different laws to suit. Exactly like a de facto heterosexual couple. And why not like a married couple? Because the ACT was told by the Commonwealth that it couldn't in its Act treat gays exactly the same as married couples. I love that Bolt's accusing the gays of being behind the lower protection afforded to their relationships under the ACT Act, rather than the conservatives who refuse to give the gays the proper equal protection of marriage. Genius. "We are not going to let you have proper marriages, which just proves that you don't want proper marriages." Um, what? Bolt also, bizarrely, only seems to be talking about gay men. If you accepted his strange generalisations as comprising his entire argument against gay marriage, you'd have to conclude that he doesn't have a problem with lesbians marrying: But to state the obvious: a man makes a different kind of wife than does a woman. Or put it this way: a marriage of two men tends to lack the settle-down influence many women bring to their own. Wow. Well, in that case, imagine how much better a marriage of two women would be! Oh, and here's another strange insight into his brain: I plead with our gay activists: You know how wayward straight men can be. Don't help to weaken the chains that keep them tied to their homes and their children, who so need them. Is Andrew suspecting that straight men will be tempted into gay marriages? That it's just the prohibition of gay marriage that's keeping them "tied to their homes"? (Sally, I'd be keeping an eye on Andrew's movements, if I were you.) And finally we get to the "gay marriage will destroy traditional marriage" line. How precisely will it do that? You can see how this destroys the tradition of thought that is the only thing that helps make the institution of marriage strong -- and civilising. But the old idea that Bolt has described is pretty much exactly what the gays who intend to get married actually want, and what the conservatives are refusing to allow them. So WHY will that old idea of loving permanent commitment be "gone" if we let gay people express it? Bolt's argument appears to go as follows: gay men are promiscuous and don't seem to settle down. Therefore, we must prevent them from settling down by REFUSING TO PROTECT THEIR MARRIAGES IN LAW. Gays might form permanent, loving, committed relationships now, but they don't get MARRIED (because we don't let them), which proves that they're not really that committed to each other (somehow). He's comparing apples with oranges, of course. He's comparing young, promiscuous gays with older, settled heterosexual people and deriding the relationships they form for being impermanent. Well, duh. It'd be like saying heterosexuals shouldn't be allowed to marry because young heterosexuals sleep around and older, settled gay people are monogamous. It'd be, in a word, stupid. No-one is suggesting promiscuous gays should be getting married any more than anyone is suggesting that promiscuous heterosexual people should be. The fact that there are gays who sleep around and don't treat relationships seriously shouldn't be an argument against gay marriage any more than Britney Spears is an argument against heterosexual marriage. We're talking here about the people who want to settle down. They're the ones who want to get married. And Andrew hasn't found a single good reason why we should continue to stop them. |
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Sunday, June 18, 2006
Bolt on Insiders waffling vaguely about polygamy
| Andrew Bolt found himself arguing with everyone else on Insiders this morning on the subject of gay marriage. Andrew's against it. His argument? He wants to know why, if we let gay marriage in, we wouldn't then have to let polygamy in. (See yesterday's and March's retorts as to why that's particularly silly.) So he pressed the others. "Tell us what's wrong with polygamy, then." His point - if YOU can't tell me what's wrong with polygamy, then you gay-marriage advocates will have to let the polygamists marry too! Unfortunately, I wasn't on the Insiders couch. I would have loved to throw that back at Andrew. YOU tell US, Andrew, why polygamy is wrong. You brought it up. If you can name something, then you've got your point of difference between gay marriage and polygamy. If you can't name a problem with polygamy, then why's it an argument against gay marriage? The whole point of the polygamy anti-gay marriage argument is that it CAN'T be enunciated clearly. Bolt can't specify why polygamy is wrong if he wants to keep throwing it at gay marriage, because it will be incredibly obvious then that there's a big difference between the two and legalising one doesn't mean legalising the other. No, the slippery slope argument's power comes from the audience assuming, in their gut, that there's something wrong with polygamy, and then making the illogical leap that therefore there's something wrong with gay marriage. It's illogical, of course, because whatever's wrong with polygamy obviously isn't also wrong with gay marriage, because if it was the people running the argument could simply argue directly against gay marriage on that point. That they bring up polygamy just demonstrates the weakness of their actual case against gay marriage. You tell me. Has Andrew EVER outlined what's wrong with polygamy? No? Then how's he able to get away with running it as an argument against gay marriage as if he's already proven it's a bad thing? What's the relevance? If those opposed to gay marriage can't tell us what's wrong with polygamous marriage, then why do they keep bringing it up? You know why. Because they're dishonestly trying to taint gay marriage with some innate community ill-feeling towards polygamous marriage. There's no logic to the connection, just dirty politics. Meanwhile, anyone from the anti-gay marriage side who wants to tell me what's wrong with polygamy, go right ahead. I have no firm view on the subject. (Of course, if you find a good argument against polygamy, you'd better make sure it also applies against gay marriage, because otherwise there's the end of your "slippery slope" argument.) ps I know Andrew keeps up with this blog, and since this is now the third time I've eviscerated his stupid polygamy argument, I'm a little disappointed that he was still trying to run with it this morning. |
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Saturday, June 17, 2006
Irony #2
Andrew in his forum on Friday, describing Philip Adams:Adams is a hate-peddler who tend (sic) to vilify rather than engage those whose politics aren't as radical as his own. Andrew Bolt, on the other hand... |
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Bolt 16/6: Gay marriage
| Bolt hasn't uploaded either of his Friday columns to his website yet, and so I haven't actually read his Friday piece. From his forum comments, though, it sounds like it was a version of the "slippery slope" attack on gay marriage - you know, the infantile "if you let gays marry, you'll have to let all these other groups marry: polygamists, cousins, bestialists..." As I say, I haven't the article in front of me, but I'll bet that it pretty much completely validates my response to his "So Do I" comment earlier in the year. That article explained why the slippery slope argument run on this issue by people like Bolt is a logical fallacy. (For the two pieces on the subject I've written this week, see Irony and Mr Lefty Decides #1.) Meanwhile, to help Andy out, I give you this list that's been going around summarising the main "reasons" to oppose gay marriage:
Oh, and one more. The Onion released A SHOCKING REPORT a few years ago on The Gay Agenda. Conservatives should read it carefully, as it confirms what they've feared for a long time: SAN FRANCISCO—Spokespersons for the National Gay & Lesbian Recruitment Task Force announced Monday that more than 288,000 straights have been converted to homosexuality since Jan. 1, 1998, putting the group well on pace to reach its goal of 350,000 conversions by the end of the year. Yes, Andrew Bolt is right to resist anything this perverse group of family-hating sickos asks for. Equality? Bah! |
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Thursday, June 15, 2006
Bolt 9/6: "Hot Air Could Be Costly"
| Guest post by Bruce In "Hot air could be costly", Andrew waxes polemic over nuclear power (again), choosing his targets for criticism with all the precision of a 40 megatonne bomb. Sorry, I found the pun irresistible. THE Howard Government might turn out to be as stupid as its critics, after calling its inquiry into a possible nuclear industry here. The Howard Government's critics without exception (Andrew makes none in his article) are nuclear power-phobic are they? News to me. Now whilst myself and others of my Ilk acknowledge a number of problems arising from the use of Nuclear Power (price of infrastructure, finite quantity of Uranium in the ground, security risks, production of fissile materials) we don't all automatically write off nuclear power on the basis of environmental concerns. Sure, we recognise nuclear power plants are nasty when they go boom boom, but plants built in the last 20-30 years have been pretty safe, especially when not staffed by morons. Newer generations are producing lesser quantities of waste to deal with to boot. This makes us neither advocates nor anti-nuclear power. It makes us level headed and sensible. Andrew's non-precision bombing doesn't stop just yet. Just as bizarre are the green groups and ABC hosts who complain that this inquiry is headed by Ziggy Switkowski, the former Telstra boss and -- gasp -- a nuclear physicist. Well I wouldn't call it bizarre for the green groups to criticise Ziggy on that basis, I'd call it anti-intellectual populist. You know, sort of like opinion written at the Hun really. Gasp, he has university qualifications! Feel the seething rage! I would have thought this was an urge more at home in Andrew's readership. Damn leftist University indoctrination! Foam, foam, foam. As for ABC hosts complaining. Yeah sure. Like the fair hearing Tony Jones gave Ziggy on Wednesday night? Greg Jennett on Monday night's Lateline, labelled the responces of the ALP (and Greens) a fear campaign for crying out loud. What constitutes balanced in your view Andrew? But alas, as Andrew wars with the ABC, poor innocent Jones and Jennett get vaporised by Andrew's "Dead Man's Revenge*". All is not lost however, as perhaps for the first time in a month, Andrew goes on to write something utterly sensible. Yet the Government could match this stupidity because it actually makes no commercial sense, with our coal still cheap, to have nuclear power stations. Certainly, from what I've seen, an economically valid argument. Coal reserves could easily outlast uranium reserves. Coal power plants are also cheaper to run. However, The Federal Government will, if serious about its commitment to greenhouse gas emissions, at some point before the end of the nuclear debate, complete investigations into other sources of "clean power." Carbon sequestration of coal burning emissions, experimentally applied in Europe, is something to keep an eye on. As will be solar power in years to come and developments in new kinds of wind turbines are up for due consideration (the solar-powered chimney first covered by the 7.30 Report in 2001). Given his love affair with the phrase "hot air", I would have thought Andrew could have at least given the latter some lip service since it's been in the news lately. Oh well. Now Andrew does make an insightful (if incomplete) commentary on Howard's motivations. He's not completely without nous you know (Andrew that is, I make no representations of the Prime Minister's mental capacity.) I suspect Prime Minister John Howard just mentions them as an ambit claim, so he can settle for what indeed adds up: a nuclear enrichment industry. Insightful in that it wouldn't surprise me if Howard wanted to be more like (ahem) Alpha-male George Jr (complete with "Nucular" missiles). Perhaps misguided in his implied support for nuclear proliferation. There's room here to consider the role of lobbyists for those of such inclination. Now of course there are other motives one can plausibly find that Andrew doesn't mention, my contribution to this list will be "wedge strategy." I find it likely that Howard is using the Nuclear Power issue to wedge the ALP, which the ALP could easily counter if it just made a statement of position conditional on the outcome of inquiries into a range of alternatives. One could go on with fruitful discussion considering Howard's political motivations at length, but unfortunately, the insight stops abruptly as old prejudices emerge... But his mistake is to sell the idea of nuclear power by saying he's driven by "concerns about climate change and greenhouse gas emissions" -- as if the hype about it all is all true. All this and no mention of the temperature of the ocean, the temperature of the atmosphere nor importantly, how infra-red light reflected from the Earth's surface can't penetrate carbon dioxide gas like the Sun's rays can. But the ice sheets are getting thicker! Alas, we are spared Andrew's two-dimensional ice sheet theory, we just have to accept the hype as if it is true that human-induced global warming is made up by cultists. Accept it, and watch the ABC and Howard critics get rained with literary thermonuclear spooge. * "Dead Man's Revenge" is a strategy in nuclear war (fire all nukes) used when a nuclear power has already lost the war ;-) |
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Monday, June 12, 2006
Bolt 28/5: "Too-hot gospeller"
| Hi guys, it's Nic. Long time no blog. This one isn't actually by me, but by a Melbourne journalism student friend of mine. I said I was going to post it a couple of weeks back but forgot. Erin, I apologise. To the few people who actually miss me, I'll probably be back eventually. Mr Bolt, It seems to be the central contention of your article that the science of global warming is a debate. In any debate, it is to the credit of the debating side to acknowledge certain reasonable truths. There are empirical facts, then, that must be noted in any debate on global warming. It is a matter of empirical fact that the levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere have increased, parallel with industrialisation. It is an empirical fact that over the last 100 years, there has been an overall increase in the mean temperature of 0.6 degrees. The effects of this relatively small temperature change are already apparent globally - snow-lines are receding, coral bleaching is occuring, and the Antarctic ice-shelf is disappearing at a rapid rate. Last year I analysed an article in which you sought to discredit the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change,(IPCC) by suggesting it had a green agenda. Just one of the points that you made- that the IPCC hadn't taken into account the cooling effects of sulfur emissions, and that ("every one of these mistakes and distortions...exaggerated the dangers of global warming")- makes no sense. Firstly, if you are suggesting the use of sulfur to counteract the warming effect of other gases in the atmosphere, you should be reminded that the reason most countries restricted the use of sulfur in the 80s was that it was a primary cause of acid rain. Secondly, if the IPCC hadn't taken into account the cooling effect of this gas in making their calculation, then their statistics would err on the conservative side- if there is an unaccounted-for cooling factor, then the real temperature change must be higher than estimates suggest. As in any debate or argument, some sources are more credible than others. It's a bad idea to source all of your environment stats from the Greens, for example. The IPCC reports on global warming are the culmination of research done by experts in different fields of science, responsible for segments of each report, as relevent to their fields of expertise. The first draft of the report is circulated to specialists with significant expertise and publication in the field. The revised draft in it's entirety is then distributed to governments and all authors of the original. After these comments are taken into account, the final drafts are open to further public review. Conjecture is not admitted. Can you think of a single other scientific endeavor, Mr. Bolt, which is reviewed, globally, to the stringent extent that this report is? It cannot be a haven for either left or right agendas, the review process ensures that the document's claims are quite conservative- hundreds of individual opinions are collated into a single document upon which all must be able to agree. The IPCC reports are the product of the agreement of the majority of climatologists and other experts, globally. It is the nature of science to pose questions and find answers, and there are always going to be dissenting voices to the paradigm. You will always be able to find extreme views on either end of the spectrum - but the vast majority of people who know their stuff, are agreeing that global warming is occuring. That human activity is contributing to it. That there will be a mean temperature rise of around 3 degrees in our lifetime, and that that increase will have consequences for the environment. After Galileo said that the world rotated around the sun, and not the other way, there was debate. But to suggest that we do nothing whilst overwhelming evidence suggests that human activity may irrevocably harm the planet upon which we depend for survival, is to demand further proof that the earth is not flat. To argue that the evidence of minimal disagreement within the scientific community is a cause to disregard the overwhelming agreement is little more than wishful thinking. Andrew Bolt responds: I've written at length on some of the weaknesses in the IPCC process. Note as one example only that the last IPCC report took as fact the now discredited Mann hockey stick - which wasn't surprising since Mann himself wrote that chapter. As for Antarctica - just to pull you up on one misleading sentence - most of it is in fact cooler, and on average it seems to be accumulating more ice and snow, and not less. You also avoid the real question: While the earth does seem over the past century to have warmed, cooled and then warmed again, exactly what - if any - of this warming is due to man? Coral bleaching, for instance, is blamed on El Nino, not global warming. It's nice to have a one-line answer to the world and everything, but life - and science - is usually far more complicated. |
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Sunday, June 11, 2006
Bolt 7/6 "Damned if you do", "Matter of Loyalty" and "Now facts come out"
| Bruce has written a piece on Bolt's piece from Friday, "Hot air could be costly", but I'll post my response to the Wednesday pieces first. Look for Bruce's contribution early in the week. This will be fairly quick, as the Wednesday pieces were pretty weak and can be disposed of with little fuss. There was "Damned if you do", which tried to suggest that green groups couldn't have it both ways - we had to be either opposed to dams IN EVERY WAY, or they must approve ANYTHING DAM-RELATED. So, for example (for Andrew's only example), you couldn't argue to retain the Snowy scheme in public hands without also advocating the building of more dams. Hey, don't blame me - that's Andrew's argument. Presumably the logic makes some sense on his planet. Those with more than an ounce of rationality might recognise that you deal with what you've got - that building a new dam is a proposition involving potential real harm, which can be recognised without the recogniser being damned as a chicken-little; and dealing with an existing one is something else. There are reasons that large-scale new dams are problemmatic. Andrew might not give a crap about complex eco-systems (eco-system is the real four letter word in Andrew's world), but that doesn't mean that they're unimportant and should just be disregarded wholesale. Nonetheless, once a dam is there, the damage is done, and we might as well make the most of it. What to do with the Snowy is a public/private ownership debate, not a build/don't build new dams debate. The contradiction Andrew seeks to exploit simply doesn't exist. Ah well. What next? Ah, we have a quick piece about that strange Syrian state ALP candidate. Andrew's piece doesn't add much beyond that put in actual news articles in his paper earlier in the week, so it's not particularly enlightening. I have no idea what the ALP thinks it's doing, but they've given Bolt another opportunity to run his "multiculturalism gone mad" line, so thanks guys. Honestly, to have a real progressive party. That'd be nice. Finally to Bolt's piece on Kirby and Marsden. Anyone who's read the Murdoch papers in the weeks after the death of John Marsden (the lawyer, not the author), will be familiar with their campaign to cast Marsden as some kind of sick pervert thug paedophile bully. And to tar anyone who'd dare say anything nice about him with the same brush. See Chris Merritt's column in the Australian a few weeks back. Bolt even goes so far as to attack the High Court judge in the most serious way imaginable - JUSTICE Michael Kirby's speech at the funeral of John Marsden should have ended with his resignation. Don't hold back, Andrew! ANYONE WHO DEFENDS SOMEONE NAMED JOHN MARSDEN* MUST BE PUNISHED! Should a man who lets bright symbols blind him to ugly reality be on the High Court? "Bright symbols"? What on earth is Bolt talking about? Kirby gave a eulogy for Marsden at a celebrity mass in Sydney last Saturday that drew 500 mourners, two brass bands and nine priests. Golden brass band instruments? Is Bolt suggesting that Justice Kirby has poor judgment AND is easily distracted by shiny objects? Well, that's a novel attack on him, I suppose. Bolt does concede that there were things about Marsden to praise - Yes, on the one hand, Marsden was once president of the NSW Law Society and Council for Civil Liberties. He also notes that what Kirby praised him for was - Yet Kirby passionately praised this man as a "change agent" who had convinced him to come out as gay, adding: "Only by truth and rationality will the absurd misconceptions about homosexuals ultimately be laid at rest and the bullies defeated." Sounds fairly reasonable to me. Not to Bolt. Not when there's muck to dig up, and a man who's dead so he can't sue over it. But he was also a drug user who gave police a false name when arrested for an indecent act at a public toilet in 1967. He used drugs in 1967!!!! Clearly after using drugs 40 years ago, a man is not entitled to have nice things said about him at his funeral. And he was charged by police for "an indecent act at a public toilet in 1967" and gave a false name! (This was in the years when homosexuality was still a criminal offence, right? Hmm, I wonder why a gay person would want to give a false name to those police.) And, yes, the defamation case against Channel 7. What did happen with that? Funny, Bolt doesn't describe the outcome. I wonder why. He just pops in some innuendo about Marsden visiting male prostitutes, who he calls "rent boys". (Which makes it sound like paedophilia, doesn't it?) Except that the allegations of paedophilia were exactly what the case was about, and Marsden was successful in rebutting them. Channel 7 had to pay him $525,000 in damages when it couldn't back up those paedophilia allegations. Good thing for Bolt that Marsden's dead and can't respond, eh? As for the slurs about Marsden's character - well, even his friends were pretty open about that. He was well-known as a person who could be extremely unlikeable. But that doesn't make Kirby's remarks wrong, or, even worse, deserving of a quick resignation over. Kirby didn't describe Marsden as a saint. Hell, Marsden didn't describe Marsden as a saint. Marsden was an arrogant prick. But he was an arrogant prick who, by fair accounts, did some good in the world. Kirby was perfectly justified in pointing that out. Bolt's attack will undoubtedly play well with his audience, but it doesn't do him much credit. *Andrew doesn't like the popular author John Marsden very much, either. UPDATE: Excellent retort to all this cowardly posthumous Marsden-bashing by Mike Carlton in the SMH. |
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Saturday, June 03, 2006
Bolt 2/6: "Yanks hit homer"
| They're really, really good at spin, those conservatives. They have truly mastered the art of repeating provocative phrases so incessantly, so insidiously, that the daft ideas they represent gradually begin to sound like truth. For example, there's the term "the moral majority", by which certain religious fundamentalists seek to persuade their adherents that most people agree with them "but are too scared to say so". That despite it only being a tiny minority of citizens who actually go to church each morning, a majority still firmly believe in whatever the churches do. And there's the phrase "the liberal media", by which the hard-right, which actually does run and own deeply partisan "news organisations" (particularly those owned by Murdoch - Fox news, newspapers like the Herald Sun), tries to pretend that somehow the left controls the media. Despite the mainstream media consisting of corporate stations, dedicated to nothing but the mighty dollar (how progressive of them), and government-run media (with boards appointed by the conservatives). And there's the most ridiculous chestnut of all, "anti-American", by which anyone who is critical of a particular US Administration - the present corrupt, incompetent Republican one - can be immediately marginalised by pretending that their criticism is nothing more than some kind of "racist" hatred of the country and its people. Yes, admit everything George Bush does is right, or YOU'RE A FILTHY TRAITOR/TERRORIST-LOVER. Hell, the right even uses the term to attack actual Americans from the left. "You're anti-American!" they cry, which only makes sense if you accept their redefinition of the word "American" to mean "conservative Republican American". Which is, of course, a nonsense. Obviously, to anyone with more than an ounce of common sense, it is perfectly possible to love many things about America, its people, its culture - whilst still being critical of its non-functioning institutions, its lobbyist-ridden thoroughly undemocratic version of "democracy", and its present venal Administration. George Bush doesn't represent what's best about America any more than John Howard represents what's best about Australia, and you can criticise each of the former whilst still loving both of the former. In a democracy, disagreement with the present leadership of a country is not the same as treasonous hatred of that country. It's called politics. And for conservatives to try to identify themselves as the sole representatives of our countries is, frankly, as despicable as it is risible. Bolt's article today reveals that the "American Australian Association" (an American business lobby) is offering $25 million for a University to establish a "United States Studies Centre" - and John Howard has promised to chip in a further $25 million of taxpayers' money for the same. The site for the centre will be chosen based on whichever University is most prepared to sell pro-US business propaganda. As Bolt remarks: The reason is simple. Big business -- especially American business -- is not going to stump up cash to pay yet more lecturers to say how gruesome is American society, business, politics, race relations or imperialism. And we're going to put in $25 million for this propaganda! It's not enough that these businesses pour millions in lobbying funds into their own government, and through that government to ours (hence the ridiculously consumer- and citizen-unfriendly FTA to which we've signed ourselves up recently) - but the Prime Minister wants to spend TWENTY FIVE MILLION DOLLARS OF TAXPAYERS' MONEY to help prop up these business interests. Make no mistake. This centre is not about American culture, or concern for human rights, democracy, or anything of the sort. It's about encouraging positive feelings towards American big business. And we're going to pay for it. Of course, Andrew Bolt thinks this is wonderful. Think of its fierce commitment to democracy. Think of its freedoms, wealth, inventions, innovations, writers and great presidents. Think how it has defied tyrannies, exported democracy, embraced so many immigrants and learned how to correct its sometimes terrible mistakes. Don't these qualities also demand study? Except that the purse-strings are firmly held by an American business lobby. You think they're going to be emphasising study on "embracing immigrants" and genuine "democracy"?* Uh, sure they are. So how will the AAA ensure its centre studies both the bad and good of the US, and does indeed deepen our "appreciation and understanding" and "strengthen our relationship"? Wow, in the best interests of genuine independent academic study. IF YOU DISPLEASE US WE WILL SHUT YOU DOWN. Gee, some high-quality, hard-hitting, useful research will be coming out of there! The universities, of course, will demand they get this money with no strings attached. Academic freedom and all that. And what right do businessmen have to decide which university gets government money? Hey, we'll happily embrace criticism! What part of the "we'll shut you down if we don't like what you're saying" and "we'll choose to whom we give the money [ours and your governments]" and "we think everyone hates us and want to counter this" makes you think we wouldn't? That this sort of propaganda centre is to receive public money, and that where the money goes is to be decided by an American business lobby, should be total affronts to pretty much every citizen of this country. The process only makes sense if you accept that criticising specific US policies is the same as "anti-Americanism", and that this is, of itself, a sufficiently bad thing that it is deserving of (a great deal of) Australian public money to fix. And if you really believe that, you've been reading far too much Andrew Bolt. *The old meaning of democracy - remember "rule by the people for the people"? |
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